List Only - So Atheists: What is your reaction to this Top 10 list from the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission Huh?

So Atheists: What is your reaction to this Top 10 list from the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission Huh?

Top 10 signs Christianity is under attack in America. 10. Pro-life Pastor Reverend Walter Hoye of Oakland, CA was jailed for exercising peaceful, pro-life speech. 9. Rev. Fred Winters was murdered while preaching in his pulpit in Maryville, Illinois. 8. HBO’s program “Curb Your Enthusiasm” aired an episode where the main actor urinates on painting of Jesus. When confronted HBO would not apologize. 7. The overt homosexual participation in Obama’s presidential inaugural events by “Bishop” Vickie Eugene Robinson, the Gay Men’s Chorus of Washington D. C., and a homosexual marching band. 6. Police called to East Jessamine Middle School in Lexington, Kentucky to stop 8th graders from praying during their lunch break for a student whose mother was tragically killed. 5. Pro-life activist Jim Pullion was murdered in front of his granddaughter’s high school for showing the truth about abortion. 4. An activist judge ordered a home school mom in New Hampshire to stop home schooling her daughter because the little girl “reflected too strongly” her mother’s Christian faith. 3. The Federal Department of Homeland Security issued a report entitled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate” that labeled conservative Christians extremists and potential terrorists. 2. President Obama’s appointment of radical anti- Christians like homosexual activist Kevin Jennings as the “safe school czar;” pro-abortion advocate Kathleen Seblius made Secretary of Human and Health Services, and Chai Feldblum, pro-homosexual and anti-religious liberty judge nominated for Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. 1. The Federal Hate Crimes Bill that attacks religious liberty and freedom of speech. For the first time in our history ministers are vulnerable to investigation and prosecution for telling the truth about homosexuality.

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what makes you think we care what you think? or do you even care what we think? 10. The ordinance prohibits contact within eight feet of women entering abortion clinics without their consent. All he had to do was not get close; the judge wasn't going to give him any jail time if he agreed to stay away from clinics. But oh no! He wasn't going to have that and chose to martyr himself, it's true that the rule is stupid, but he's a bigger douche. How would you feel if atheists started to protest outside of your churches? I'm sure ordinances would step in to prevent conflicts...
That Christians are paranoid?
More BS from America's paranoid, persecuted majority.
I think that they are all extremely idiotic. I won't be having the same group of people who opposed black civil rights tell me who deserves rights or not, sorry.
This is just what you believe. Don't force yourself down our throats.
Everything you just typed is subjective to the individual reading it. And you don't give full stories behind each number. Also, you use too many personal descriptive terms (persecution, peaceful) that can change due to another persons take on the story. Sorry, you fail. You do not pass go. You do not win teh internets.
don't care
My reaction is that you are a whiner with a victim complex.
"A pastor at a Berkeley church was jailed Friday for 30 days after unsuccessfully arguing that an order requiring him to stay 100 yards away from an Oakland abortion clinic violates his right to free speech." Well, in the tenth example, looks like he was arrested for violating a court order... I haven't seen the others yet "The man suspected of fatally shooting an Illinois pastor during Sunday services suffered from mental illness stemming from a tick bite" As for #9, it's always horrible when someone is murdered, but it looks like the cause was insanity, not bigotry. #8 is distasteful, but we have free speech here. #7 is more suggestive of your own bigotry towards others than bigotry aimed at you. #6 and 4 I'm having hard times finding any credible sources. #5 is terrible, and has to do with pictures of aborted fetuses that were passed out at schools. #3 Extremists of any branch can be dangerous. #2 "radical anti- Christians" loaded words, no evidence found to suggest they hate Christianity or any other religion. as for number 1, I'll lazily point you to wiki... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime_laws_in_the_United_States
Christianity is under attack, without a doubt. Yet, so is atheism. Every Sunday, preachers stand up and deny the perspective of atheists, just as atheists do about religion. However, ten pieces of anecdotal evidence are not enough to show that a violent revolution is about to occur. For the most part, atheists have attacked religion through non-violent, intellectual means - an attack Christianity has been unable to defend (as evidenced by rising atheist populations). While we're on this topic, I'd like to ask you a question: Why shouldn't Christianity be under attack? Its basic tenets say that everyone outside of their group is going to spend eternity in a hot pit, thereby inciting unfettered loyalty and predisposition to radical action. For evidence, they offer nothing even remotely rational, and expect one to take it all on "faith". I do not support the federal government cracking down on religion, assuming it does not infringe on the rights of others. However, I give my full support to a complete attack of Christianity's absurdities in the arena of logical discourse and intellectual banter. In this arena, Christianity will lose. Finally, I do not consider the government's limited tolerance of school-sponsored religion to be sufficient evidence for an "attack" on Christianity. Public schools are government institutions, and as such, should not endorse any religion. Displaying the commandments or having school-sponsored prayer is an endorsement. Should an individual student, or group of students, wish to pray, I consider it their constitutional right.
well 6. for instance is a lie. Students wanted to make a prayer group during class time and intended to do so without permission. No police were called and nobody has arrested. I love it when the other side lies makes it so easy.
Everybody seems to want to be a victim these days. I think that Christianity is under attack in certain quarters . . . but maybe it should be. Do the fellows who put out lists such as that ever stop to consider that they might have brought on the negative feedback themselves by trying to push their beliefs on everyone else?
"The Federal Hate Crimes Bill that attacks religious liberty and freedom of speech..." Just stop right there...that law punishes physical ASSAULT, not speech. With or without that law, you still don't get to hit gay people. Your argument is so stupid it defies belief.
you can't be in the group that runs everything and still play victim...so please stop.
Freedom of Choice.
Well that's just disappointing. Why aren't they going after Fox News "pundits" for felony libel and fraud?
not that i don't see this as wrong but, there stuff like that happens to atheists just as well. the only difference is, we have god, we trust in him and love him unconditionally. they have nobody but each other, when the going gets tough, they scream "christians, why would god do this, if he was real?!" and some don't have answers, they fall and lose hope. some don't know how to explain their answers but know in their hearts what they want to say, so when people keep asking and they remain silent, they are considered foolish and delusional. and their are those that speak out who have answers, knowledge, wisdom, and faith. those are hated, or unheard, and they answer those that question them, but not enough hear that person, so they ignore that he answered and go on asking the same thing to a new crowd. i don't need satistics to know that christians are being hated, and being treated unfairly, i know this in my heart, and so does the heart of every christian and atheists know, but im going to turn the other cheeck and ignore it and when the time comes, god will let me know what to do, if anything at all. do you want an example? stay on Y!A for a few months, you will then have your answer, or even watch my thumbs carfully, or even make a personal poll to see how many christians on Y!A have a higher BA percent, than 5 ( compaired to atheist of course.) but it still then won't matter, all we have left to do is live, learn, and pray. hope this helped.
I have a friend who was in that "homosexual marching band". I can assure you, she was thinking of no more than trying not to massacre the music while keeping her freezing feet in time, and not embarrassing herself in front of the TV cameras. Attacking Christianity was the last thing on her mind.
True Christianity is not harmed by these things you have listed. Anti-Choice activists who attack doctors and women are breaking the law. People trying to overturn American laws concerning public prayer in the schools are going against Jesus' wishes, for he told us that when we pray to shut ourselves up in a closet and not pray loudly in the streets. Jesus didn't want extremists who trampled on the rights of others; he wanted loving beings who honored God privately and did good works for their fellow man.
10. Walter Hoye was jailed for violating the law, and violating a judge's order after his first violation of the law. Not for exercising "peaceful pro-life speech." 9. Fred Winters was killed by a man whose brain was damaged from Lyme disease. 8. Now *that* is peaceful free speech. 7. So? Were the homosexuals chanting, "god hates christians?" No. 6. Never happened. Cops never called. Kids were disciplined by school authorities (no cops) after they ditched classes to stay in the prayer group. Busted for ditching class, not praying. 5. Murder is wrong. That's not persecution. 4. Wrong. It was a child custody issue, and the father didn't want his kid home-schooled because the mother had no qualifications. The dad won in court. It wasn't a religious issue. 3. With a little tweaking, this entry would be more precise; the report labeled conservative Christian extremists as potential terrorists. It didn’t say that all conservative Christians are dangerous. Just the dangerous ones. Does the CADC deny the existence of the Christian Identity movement? Didn’t a conservative Christian extremist kill George Tiller? 2. None of those are "anti-christian" except in the minds of christians. And guess what? Obama won the election, he gets to appoint whom he chooses. 1. Wrong. The "hate crimes bill" only applies to a CRIME (assault, robbery, murder) committed, which can have added penalties if it can be proven the prime motivation was hate. Since speech is not a crime, it won't ever apply. So what do I think of this list? A bunch of outright lies, mostly. Of course, people who believe things without evidence will eat it up, rather than actually research the lies being told... Peace.
Preface, assuming that your presentations are in fact honest, and assuming that they are not cherry picked to misrepresent reality, I will answer thus: 10) so? People get arrested everyday for shit they shouldn't have gotten arrested for. Big whoop. Books and movies and society have been censored by Xtians for so long, that one pro-lifer not being allowed to spew his bile doesn't really bug me. 9) By whom? For what? Was he murdered by an atheist? By a presbyterian? By his wife? By an escaped loony from the local asylum? 8) Good, I applaud HBO for their abundant balls. 7) 'overt homosexuals', holy crap. Not men kissing ! Whatever will be next, human sacrifice? Get over it. 6) Yeah, if those kids chose to pray, then they should be allowed to pray. On the other hand, if they were TOLD to pray.... 5) 'the truth' about abortion. Biased much? Anyway, you're saying that pro-choicers shot this guy down for speaking out against abortion? Need a link before I swallow that . And if it did happen, damn, people are starting to kill in the other direction. Holy shit. 4) Gosh, losing ground in the US ? Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again, public school is a joke. Still, the world is going to hell, a lot of that is the fault of theism and I don't much care. 3) Sucks to be you. Might have something to do with that dept. being run by a Muslim. 2) Ok, not a huge fan of Obama BUT...'radical anti-christians' need a bit more evidence than your personal word. Anti-religious judge? Great. How's it feel when the shoe is on the other foot? 1) 'the truth' about homosexuality. Yeah, whatever. Still, that 'hate crimes bill' might just wind up selectively enforced. Once again, not a fan of Xtianity but Islam makes Xtianity look like a bunch of Girlscouts selling cookies.
Thanks to efficient public school systems providing education for all, religious delusions and superstitions quietly fade away dear. This can be observed even in backward places like the Bible Belt USA. You can pretend to be martyred as much as you like, we know some people get a kinky kick out of it but that's the way things are going. ANd yes, christian fundies have to obey the law of the land, just like everyone else dear... Perhaps you should pray ?
8. HBO’s program “Curb Your Enthusiasm” aired an episode where the main actor urinates on painting of Jesus. When confronted HBO would not apologize. Ya, I saw that episode. He doesn't urinate on the painting. There's accidental splashback and the episode is about how the *socially awkward* main character fails to deal with it responsibly. To suggest that it is done out of malice and persecution is disingenuous and is bearing false witness.
Let me play you the worlds smallest violin i don't give a damn about some bum in jail.
How about my top 10 list? #1 The Crusades #2 The Roman Catholic Inquisition. #3 The English Civil War #4 Missionary's treatment of the Native Peoples of the Americas #5 Salem Witch Trials. #6 The Klu Klux Klan #7 Bombing of Abortion Clinics #8 Hatred of Muslim People #9 Hatred of Homosexuals #10 Last, but not least, the Molestation of young children in the care of priests. These are just a few that come to mind, not in any particular order. To be honest, I had to rack my brain after #6. The first ones are pretty big and historical events.