what is your list of the 10 greatest Pitchers of the last 40 years?
here is mine 1-Roger Clemens 2-Randy Johnson 3-Steve Carlton 4-Greg Maddux 5-Nolan Ryan 6-Pedro Martinez 7-Tom Seaver 8-Dwight Gooden 9-Tom Glavine 10-Mariano Rivera BQ-do you think Justin Verlander has a chance of making this list?
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- Last 40 years so since 1971.... 1. Greg Maddux 2. Pedro Martinez 3. Roger Clemens 4. Randy Johnson 5. Tom Seaver 6. Mariano Rivera 7. Steve Carlton 8. Nolan Ryan 9. Dennis Eckersley 10. Tom Glavine BQ: In the 1981 to 2021 list Verlander, Halladay, Sabathia, and maybe one or two others currently pitching could very well make the list. Guys like Lee, Lincecum, Kershaw, Beckett, Weaver, etc. edit: All the guys on my list are Hall of Famers or futuer Hall of Famers (except maybe Clemens). I ignored the fact that Clemens had some help. I didn't pick Gooden because his career was too short. Eckersley redefined the closer role. The other HOFers that pitched primarily after 1971 and aren't top 10 are Bruce Sutter, Bert Blyleven, Rich Gossage, and Rollie Fingers.
- Clemens doesn't make my list because of the PED (Steroid) controversy. # 1. Greg Maddux (only one pitcher since WWII has won more games. Warren Spahn) # 2. Randy Johnson, a simply marvelous lefty. # 3. Tom Seaver, possibly the best pitcher of all time. He improved almost every club that he pitched for. # 4. Pedro Martinez, mainly because of that one brilliant span of 5 or 6 seasons of almost complete dominance. # 5. Steve Carlton. Was simply great some years and somewhat above average in years when his record was not too good. # 6. Dwight Gooden was as great a young pitcher as any other young great pitcher. He was seriously abused though by over use and after age 25, just faded away, when all or most all, great pitchers are just coming into their prime. # 7. Mariano Rivera. Simply, at times, unbelievable as a relief specialist. Benefited greatly by being used wisely. # 8. Mike Mussina. He had a winning record better than his team in every year he pitched except one. # 9. Nolan Ryan. Simply because of the wow things that he did. A most unusual pitcher. # 10. Tom Glavine goes here, because he did win over 300 games. Otherwise I thought he was rather the least impressive of this group. Edit, one day later. I left out my thoughts on Verlander. He has made a great start toward being considered an all time great. Two caveats: One. Is he a great pitcher having a very good year or a very good pitcher having a great year? Two. Now, he must continue to average 15 or more wins per year for 11 or 12 years.
- I AGREE
- Good list. Verlander has more to prove to make THAT list.
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